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Diiii (Bronze Green) |
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01/11/03 07:03 |
Joel,
Thanks for the post. Thanks for all your posts for that matter. I just wanted you to know that these are the words that help me keep this quit the most...
"For once a relapse has occurred there is no guarantee a smoker will have the strength, desire or opportunity to quit again before smoking
tragically interferes with their health, social status, and maybe even their life."
I went through the first 2 weeks of my quit with my teeth clamped together, holding my breath half the time. My attitude was suck it up and get it done.
Your words above just stayed with me. I repeated them in my head over and over as a point of reinforcement. I remember reading them early on, but never
could remember which article they were in. Thanks for bringing it to the top.
Dianne
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OBob Gold |
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Joel |
Come share your strength | #43 | |||||||||||
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Joel |
Come share your strength | #44 | |||||||||||
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03/03/03 02:21 |
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Joel |
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03/08/03 05:00 |
So last night was the panel night of my clinic. It was great. It is kind of a live version of "Tell a
Newbie how many times a day you think about cigarettes." Although being live and the fact that we have an hour and a half to use we can get into
much more detail. The span of time experiences of the panel was great. We had one man who was off just two months, one girl who was off for five months, one
man off for nine months, one man off thirteen months, one woman almost at two years, one man almost at two and a half years, one man who was off almost
sixteen years and one other man who was off over nineteen years.
I never know for sure who is going to show up at panels. The man who was off for almost sixteen years had never come in once until this time. We somehow
established email contact a few months back and he just decided now to drop on in. He had confided to me before the meeting had started that he has actually
had a cigar a few years back but was not smoking. There were no actual class members in the room at the time, but three of the other panelists were there.
One of the panelists was the man who was only off for two months. It was good that he was there. I told the fifteen year ex-smoker that he was extremely
lucky he didn't lose that quit. I don't think he took my warning too seriously until I turned to the two month panelist and said, "didn't
you once quit before this clinic for a long time period?" He said yes, he had quit once for fifteen years, and relapsed by taking a cigar. That was over
six years ago and it took him six years to break free from it again.
The nineteen year panelist brought a certificate from my hundredth anniversary clinic. (See http://www.whyquit.com/joel/mabley2.html) He was one of the participants at that session. I don't remember what his amount was on that
certificate but it was impressive. I actually just did the calculation using today's date. He had quit in September of 1984 and as of today he has not
smoked 6,745 days straight and has not smoked 404,700 cigarettes. I will email his numbers to him later.
The one woman who was off for five months never actually came to my clinic. She came in to my one night seminar, and even said last night that she had not
really intended on quitting. She was coming in to support her mother so she would quit smoking. The daughter quit that night, the mother did not. That
happens a lot.
The man who was off for nine months actually is the brother of one of our members here--that is how he first heard about the clinic. He was the panelist who
made the biggest deal of how proud he was everyday that he had quit. The others quickly realized upon hearing him say this that they too were still proud and
have never thought back for a second thinking what a dumb thing it was to have quit smoking.
The dynamic of new quitters learning from experienced seasoned quitters is inspiring. But the seasoned quitters walk off with a deeper appreciation of their
success too by hearing and seeing new quitters--still scared of the future and still in the early stages of adjustment. It is a great experience being able
to witness these kind of interactions.
But it is what we see here at Freedom everyday. As we go longer and longer we too are going to see such interactions at Freedom. One day we are going to see
new members coming in talking about how can they really face the distant future and we will have some of you answering them about you are off for decades
now, have not smoked hundreds of thousands of cigarettes, faced great traumas and great celebrations and stayed successfully smoke free. When you are asked
how did you get this great period of time you will proudly and enthusiastically be able to day that you stayed off these thousands of days by focusing on the
concept of one day at a time to never take another puff!
Joel
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Joel |
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Joel |
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Joel |
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04/24/03 03:12 |
We know not everyone has time to stop by and write everyday. Some people don't have time to write every week or even every month. But do try to find the
time to stop by and read every once in a while. Taking a few minutes to read can help to secure your quit. Securing your quit can help to buy you years and
maybe even decades of extra time of a healthier and higher quality life. Make a point of stopping by every now and then to to read and strengthen your
commitment and resolve to never take another puff!
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Joel |
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05/01/03 05:47 |
This one seemed timely considering some of the discussion we have going today:
We know not everyone has time to stop by and write everyday. Some people don't have time to write every week or even every
month. But do try to find the time to stop by and read every once in a while. Taking a few minutes to read can help to secure your quit. Securing your quit
can help to buy you years and maybe even decades of extra time of a healthier and higher quality life. Make a point of stopping by every now and then to to
read and strengthen your commitment and resolve to never take another puff!
Joel |
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Joel |
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05/20/03 12:15 |
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Golddabler1 |
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05/20/03 04:26 |
Hi joel
Posting here helps me reinforce my quit as i see education as a repeat prescription that is preferable to the old one i had ie smoking,I done some martial
arts training years ago and the teacher would say do this move one hundred times untill it becomes second nature,so that under attack you will respond
automatically,
The education here has exactly the same principle for me,i,ve had a really easy quit and my diary proves it,on day 3 it says tommy offered me an oxygen
restrictor when i was at my local bar having a drink.
I was using freedoms education to see things clearly,i lost a years quit before and that was an easy quit but the relapse was even easier.I think the work
required to stay out of the trap is easier and more worthwhile than the energy used up being stuck in the trap.
Rickdabler 2months 1 week 4 days 9hrs 30mins happily niocotine free.
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Rickgoldx5 |
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05/20/03 05:50 |
Joel,
All I can do is help from here. Can't afford a trip to "windy city" but what you do for us here at Freedom is a great gift. I will keep on
trying to give it back. Thank You
Rick
One year, two weeks, two days, 3 hours, 34 minutes and 35 seconds. 30491 cigarettes not smoked, saving $4,558.54. Life saved: 15 weeks, 20 hours, 55 minutes.
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Joel |
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06/19/03 03:35 |
I had a seminar last night that made me think of this one.
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Joel |
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GrumpyOMrsS (Gold) |
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Joel |
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10/26/03 06:13 |
I saw where the topic was raised by a few people that posting will help secure your quit. Actually, the majority of our successful quitters don't post all that often. We often see where a person is celebrating turning silver or gold or off multiple years who drop in and say, "I don't post much anymore but I still drop by and read regularly. Spending time reading is probably more likely to help a person secure his or her quit than posting. When it comes down to it, our real wish is for each individual here is to keep his or her own quit secure. Now there are people who are long-term quitters who are in fact frequent posters. We really appreciate all of the work and help of these people who do stick around. You can tell from the posts of these people that they are well beyond the point of feeling insecure about their own quits. They know not to get complacent and they do want to help. If a person has the time and desire to be there for others they are great assets to our board. But for people whose time might be limited, we want them to put their time into securing their own quits more than trying to secure others. There is one thing that makes our goal a little different than many Internet based sites. We don't want people to sacrifice time from other areas of their lives and getting hooked on the board. (See Crutches and Freedom - your journey to comfort - a highly focused forum) In the beginning few days this is common, where new members really do spend an inordinate amount of time reading and learning and trying to strengthen their resolve. This is during the time period when many people do find their lives centered around not smoking. Over time though, life should not need to be centered around not smoking, it should be centered around living your life. Being really successful means that you have developed the ability of being with family, friends, doing your job, and meeting your normal day to day demands without constantly thinking about smoking or about quitting. Over the long-term not smoking should still be looked at as a big deal and a major accomplishment but you shouldn't have to spend more than a few minutes on any given day reminding yourself of this fact. (see "I am not going to smoke today!" and Take it one day at a time. We don't want new members or people first looking at our site who are just considering quitting to think that quitting smoking is going to be a major time commitment or something that is going to consume the rest of their lives. Quitting smoking is going to buy you lots of time and allow you the ability to live your life to the fullest. We know not everyone has time to stop by and write everyday. Some people don't have time to write every week or even every month. But do try to find the time to stop by and read every once in a while. Taking a few minutes to read can help to secure your quit. Securing your quit can help to buy you years and maybe even decades of extra time of a healthier and higher quality life. Make a point of stopping by every now and then to to read and strengthen your commitment and resolve to never take another puff! Joel |
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Jordan Bronze |
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10/27/03 07:24 |
I totally agree Joel... I guess because it sounds alot like me. I read here
everyday, thirsty for all of the knowledge I have come across. I don't post too often - as much as I would like to - I guess I am finding the reading
and also reading other's posts extremely helpful for me. I'm not anti-social ... just anti-nicotine
Jordan
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Joel |
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01/11/04 10:35 |
I saw a post yesterday that was from a returning member who wrote something to the effect that he or she hardly stopped by to post or read anymore. I am
never concerned when a person says that they don't have time to come by and post. I know when life gets hectic posting can take a lot of time. But I
really do encourage all people to drop in and read every once in a while to help keep their guard up and ammunition to stay free reinforced. Here is a
comment from above that discusses this concept:
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Patticake (Gold) |
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01/12/04 03:26 |
Though I do an occasional post I don't post like I did in the beginning. Anyone that remembers me can vouch that I was an
almost 24/7 resident here, unbelievable how many times I actually dozed off while typing. And if I weren't here I was miserable, not that I was addicted
to the internet I was simply afraid to get too far from this site. I was mainlining information, I was an addict and for the first time in 40+ years I had
hope, and all I had to do was read and read some more and seriously commit to what I'd learned.
My earlier attempts to quit were about as fruitless as trying to paint my toenails in the dark, simply didn't work because
I had no idea that I was battleing an addiction and was unaware that just setting them aside was only the first step of many.
Fortunate for me I stumbled into Freedom, I'll never forget it. I thought my gosh just look at all these people,
there's people out there just like me, people who also want to quit and haven't been any more prepared than I............no wonder we failed at
previous attempts. Suddenly all the desperate thoughts I'd had over the years were spelled out right on this board.........it wasn't a
'habit' it was an 'addiction'.
As ironic as this may sound; and again those of you who remember me also remember I've tried to be open and honest about my feelings concerning nicotine,...............I felt relief in learning there was a name for my so called 'habit'. At last I had a name to put to it, at last I knew the name of my enemy.............and at last I knew what to do about it.
So I called it what it was 'nicotine addiction'......and I said, "Ant you're an addict, let's do
something about it". So I did, and that commitment started 2 years, 11 months, 3 weeks, and four days ago and my quitmeter is still clicking
along.
No, I don't post much anymore........but that little breeze you feel during odd times of the days and nights is me.....but
don't be alarmed because it's just me on my way to the Library. I've had something big happen in my life and complacency just isn't in my
vocabulory...I love Freedom too much to lose it again.
Your quit friend,
Antonia
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