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IrishLotus GOLD |
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*WARNING- I did read the post regarding pasting from Word, but I believe this post may still end up a little screwy. I apologize in advance to
anyone having difficulty deciphering my hyroglyphics.*
Although I have read quite a bit around here regarding the concept of "social" smoking (i.e.: Are there "social smokers?" and social smokers? are they real? ), I don't think I fully understood the term "social smoker" until
now. You see, my boyfriend, a self-proclaimed "social smoker" who decided to quit as
of 1/1/03, has since relapsed (C'mon...are you really surprised?).
RELAPSE SCENARIO: After two whole weeks of following my lead and maintaining a successful "never
take another puff" quit, he was out one weekend with his smoking friends and had his first alcohol since he quit. Because he had
still not accepted the fact that he is a nicotine addict (I'm an ADDICT! HooRAY!), he decided that he HAD to smoke while drinking. His junkie excuse?: "I
can't do one without the other, because I never have". ANYWAY, He "triumphantly" announced that he planned to remain
"quit" during the week, and that he had the "willpower" to allow himself ONLY to puff while drinking/on the
weekends. I reminded him that soon after that first puff he would be back to full-fledged smoking, but he
remained confident that he was different and that he could keep his smoking only to the weekends/while drinking. The crazy thing is that,
even though I knew from my FREEDOM education that this was impossible, my inner-junkie and my personal belief in my boyfriend's
"will-power" led me to actually secretly entertain the thought that, for him (a "social smoker") perhaps this was INDEED possible.
HAH!
ANYWAY, as I said, he has been adamant about the fact that he is a "social" smoker, and that he only
"needed" to smoke on the weekends when he was drinking alcohol. As I said, I knew in my heart that he is an ADDICT (just like me) and that just
one puff would soon bring him back to his normal level of consumption (about a half a pack a day)...and then, this weekend...SWEET (although somewhat sour)
VALIDATION!
Allow me to "break it down": Our Valentines' Day started off a bit rocky. (To make a long
story a little bit shorter
You see, for the last month or so, in order to prove to me that he is indeed a "social smoker", he had
conditioned his inner-addict to wait until the weekend (apparently Friday night immediately following work) for a sickarette...And when he didn't get it
he became VERY irritable! When I pointed out that he nearly ruined our Valentine's Day due to his nicotine withdrawal, he begrudgingly admitted,
"his anti-depressants had run-out, and he felt he needed to 'self-medicate' with a cigarette" (well, at least he listens a BIT when I talk
THE LESSON: Although he still has not verbally admitted that he is an addict, I think that it has become
abundantly clear to him that he is not/cannot be a "social smoker". This morning I watched him as he went outside with his morning
coffee (in two feet of snow mind you) to have a cigarette. I smiled and thought, "gee it's Tuesday morning, and he isn't drinking
alcohol…"social smoker" my foot!
YQS-
Not one single stinkin puff for 4 Months 3 Weeks 4 Days 13 Hours 27 Minutes 30 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 4426. Money saved:
$1,106.71.
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valeriescleanGOLD |
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Thanks Lotus for that VERY entertaining and most educating read. Yeah, being a member here at Freedom, I saw what was coming
at the end of your story. Good reminder to All of us here that nobody is exempt from the Law of Addiction.
yqf,
Valerie
1 Month, 2 Weeks 3 Days-Freedom is awesome!
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Rickgoldx5 |
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Lotus,
Am I ever glad I don't have to go through that misery again unless I choose to!
Smokers are welcome to it!
Thanks so much for reminding why I never want to take another puff again!
Rick
Nine months, two weeks, 9 hours, 44 minutes and 53 seconds. 23232 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,473.75. Life saved: 11 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes.
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Jordan(Silver) |
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Hi Lotus,
While your boyfriend was in denial about being a social smoker, my husband was sure that gradual withdrawal would work for him. I
tried to tell him that it would be too hard to do gradual, to just go cold turkey, but he did'nt listen. He's tried gradual withdrawal for the past
few months. Well it did'nt work! He's back up to his old level of smokeing a pack and a half a day right now.
There's no such thing as a social smoker!
Quitting by gradual withdrawal is too torturous for most of us addicts.
Maybe one day our men will listen to us the first time we try to tell them something eh Lotus?!
yqs, Gena
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IrishLotus GOLD |
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You said it Gena...I suppose the best way can do is just to keep on "leading by example". One day they will listen, I'm sure. Until then,
leave the painful withdrawal symptoms to them and let's just keep on enjoying the comfort in this beautiful bronze limo!
YQS-
Just realized...21 weeks today!
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OBob Gold |
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You must be dating my doppleganger. Flashback: 1/1/00. Bob quits smoking. Flash forward 10 days. Bob decides to smoke over drinks. Forward another 2
days. Monday. Bob decides that he'll just smoke on weekends while drinking. Forward 10 days. After 5 days of not smoking, 2 nights of smoking (making
an excuse to go to the pub on Saturday night for the primary reason that he wanted to smoke), Bob decides that, in addition to the weekend smoking, he can
allow himself the odd one during stressful times Monday - Friday. Forward another 10 days. Bob's smoking at old levels just for this one stressful
week. Back to weekend smoking next week. Forward another 10 days. Bob's still smoking at his old levels. Maybe next week. Forward another week....
Still smoking, getting frustrated. Realization of failure beginning to get hard to ignore. Maybe he'll quit for his birthday in July. Forward to
July.... Nope, still smoking... maybe 1/1/01. Forward to January, 01..... Still smoking.... attempted several quits, all of which ended in the ashpit of the
social smoking dream and/or the stress-relief smoking fantasy.
Forward another year. Bob finds Freedom. Discovers he's an addict. Quits for good. Goes to pub, and has some trying experiences early on, but uses
strategies derived from Freedom education to get through them, confident in the truth that the triggers were finite, and that he would eventually be able to
be social both without smoking, AND without being bothered by cravings. Forward a few months. Bob socializes, works, plays, celebrates, mourns, drives,
stresses, drinks coffee, leaves long meetings, goes fishing and camping.... all without nicotine or its withdrawal symptoms, and almost always without even
thinking about it.
Bob is now a social person. Bob was always a social person. I was never a social smoker; just a
plain old addict smoker.
Thanks for the memories, Lotus. I hope your boyfriend takes less time than I did to figure it out.
YQB,
Time not smoked: 1 Year 1 Month 1 Week 6 Days 8 Hours 10 Minutes 32 Seconds
Smokes not toked: 4912 Cash not spent: $1,228.02 Life, self-esteem, smell, taste, health, happiness saved: Priceless |
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IrishLotus GOLD |
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Me too, Bob, me too. Specially since he thinks this ongoing hacking cough he has must be due to some sort of allergin in his house (*ahem* tobacco smoke) or
maybe the cold, and the fact that his doctor has reminded him that without a spleen he is especially prone to infections in his lungs (including bronchitis,
menagitis, and pneumonia) and my guess is that his smoker's lungs won't do too well fighting off these types of (possibly deadly) infections , etc...
"You must be dating my doppleganger". (
Actually, I feel relieved to have personally unearthed this "social smoker" myth once and for all. To tell you the truth, the idea that there
might actually be such a thing as a successful "social smoker" was actually acting as a bit of a trigger for me...for a while there I found myself
actually getting jealous of his ability to "contain" this drug. What a laugh! I'll tell you though, I think the fact that I have been
responding to all of his junkie thinking with the simple phrase "that's because you're an addict" is starting to sink in. Hopefully sonner
rather than later.
21 AMAZING weeks!
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Sal GOLD |
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I don't whether to laugh or cry.
Yes, I do.....
One month, six days, 16 hours, 25 minutes and 53 seconds.
753 cigarettes not smoked, saving $131.89.
Life saved: 2 days, 14 hours, 45 minutes.
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BillW Gold |
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Hi Lotus!
I'm sorry to read about the little learning experience you've been involved with. Your boyfriend has just emailed me, and authorized me to say
that you are right, and that he really is an addict.....
This posting will self destruct in one hour......
BillW One year, one week, three days. 11262 cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,224.32. Life saved: 5 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes.
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kensensei gold |
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Thank you for the very inisghtful story Lotus. And to Bob--VERY well said! I doubt there is anyone at Freedom with
whom your story does not resonate. Through all of college it was gonna be just weekends, or just papers, or just with my buddies from home, and it never,
ever, was. Then beginning in November of last year I went through a string of 5 or 6 quits (each one was the ONCE AND FOR ALL LAST QUIT EVER) each of which
disappeared because I decided that I was strong enough to have just the one: because I'm really stressed right now, because I have to stay up
late tonight, because whatever.
Because we all think that WE are different. We would hardly be human if we didn't believe that we were unique and special. And
goodness knows, we ARE all unique and special, in many, many ways. But the junkie inside of us skews that fact into believing that the simple,
uncontrollable chemical forces of addiction don't apply to US. Of course your boyfriend thought that he could be a social somker, Lotus. It is just the
teeniest tiniest leap from being a well-adjusted person who has a healthy self-image to believing that nicotine doesn't affect you the way it affects
everyone else. It takes the education that we get here at Freeom to realize that believing we can be social smokers is tantamount to believeing that we can
be social breathers or sleepers or drinkers of water. Sure everyone else needs oxygen to survive, but not ME. I can just use it when I want. My body
won't go into hypoxia and do everything it can to get oxygen into the bloodstream when I stop breathing for more than a couple of
seconds.
Anyway I don't mean to ramble. I have a friend here who is "only allowing herself to smoke in social situations," so these
issues have been on my mind lately, too. Trying to explain to her what I have learned here has been totally fruitless. She, of course, CAN be a social
smoker. SHE is different. She is the one person on earth that can do it. Well, it up to her to learn on her own. She knows that I am happy to try to help
her if I can, but I'm not gonna force all this down her throat. I'm too busy enjoying my own quit anyway.
Ken
5 weeks, 3 days
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richard This is It GOLD |
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Good stuff, Ken..... with that post of assured enlightenment you just made it into my "make sure you're ready with some witty epithet when he makes
GOLD" list :>)))
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richard This is It GOLD |
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ps... Lotus is already on my list....
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Lilycatt |
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Been there, done that!!! More than a few times!!! If I didn't know better, I would think I was your boyfriend in a previous life!!! Let's just
hope that he will see his behavior for what it really is... full fledged nicotine addiction... and maybe he'll choose someday to Never Take Another
Puff. Thanks for sharing, Lotus!
Lilycat
6 months +
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Joel |
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Hello Lotus: Thanks for sharing your insights of your boyfriend's experience here. You can learn from two very different groups of people what it takes to quit smoking and to stay free from cigarettes. The first group that you can obviously learn from is people who have quit before you and have successfully been able to stay free from cigarettes for a significantly long time periods. They may have quit with very little understanding of the problems involved with smoking or quitting, but something internal in them knew that they were and still are fighting a puff. For if they did not understand this premise they would not have been able to stay off smoking for as long as they have. The other group you can learn from is from people who have tried to quit once or more likely numerous times and have yet been able to stay off of smoking. They too offer deep insights to the addiction. Not that they actually themselves understand what is happening or why-they are often in a total quandary as to why they cannot stay off of smoking. You don't learn from these people by listening to their advice or explanations, but more so by watching their failures and learning to listen between the lines. They can supply you with the real answers even though they themselves do not know the answers or even understand the questions. This group of people can either inadvertently help you sustain your quit or, if you are not careful, they can undercut your quit. A person who relapses will often try to delude him or herself that he or she has not lost control over nicotine even after he or she has relapsed. The person will often also try to delude those around him or herself too. It is not that a relapsed smoker is inherently dishonest. He or she may truly believe that he or she can control addiction. That belief is what allowed him or her to take the first puff in the first place. Very few people take the first drag with the game plan of relapsing. They have deluded themselves that they are somehow going to control the quantity or duration of their smoking. They may sound mighty convincing to you as they are trying mighty hard to convince themselves of their control over nicotine. Patience is the virtue that is going to allow you to learn from other people's mistakes as opposed to repeating them. You have already proven that you have the ability to be patient. The first few days you were quitting your body was likely trying to convince you that smoking was okay. But you listened to all of the others who were here before you and decided to give yourself a chance to see if what they were saying was actually true--that quitting would get easier. Now you are showing patience again. Instead of just listening to your boyfriend rationalizations and comments of his ability to control nicotine, you knew to sit back and watch events unfold. It was only a matter of time before he lost his control to the degree that he could no longer hide nor deny his inability to control his usage. He is once again under the influence and control of nicotine. He has been under that control ever since he took the first drag off the first cigarette. While he may openly be admitting now that he lost control, there is still a pretty good chance that he does not yet fully appreciate when it happened. He may very likely think that it was his fourth or tenth or hundredth cigarette that did him in this time. He needs to understand that the cigarette that set up his downfall was the first one or he his going to be doomed to face this kind of wasted effort over and over again. Sadly you can't force him to believe you that one puff was going to do in his quit any more than he was able to force you to believe him that he was going to control his smoking. People are only going to accept the word of others up to a point. The best you can do now is continue to watch and analyze each other's quits. There was a time that he viewed you as weaker than him. He was a controlled smoker and you were an out of control smoker. At least that is how he saw things. But now you are a totally under control ex-smoker having a relatively easy time of things as far as nicotine is concerned. While be may still be trying to deny it, he is an out of control nicotine addict now, constantly suffering moderate to major nicotine withdrawal or else having to put his credibility, integrity and reputation on the line by smoking when he claims that he no longer needs to. As I said before, there was a time that he viewed you as weaker than him. For people who view themselves as social smokers often think that it is a personality flaw in others that allows them to smoke in a way that seems to be such an out of control manner. You have proven though that you are either smarter or stronger than he is when it comes to smoking now. I am sure that is just one more humiliating aspect that his relapsing is costing him. So sit back and watch him in his struggles. Hopefully he will sit back and watch you and your success. Maybe one day he will see the light. Maybe not, there is no way to know what the future holds for him. But for the present you can see the light every day you watch him still smoking. He is either smoking or edgy because he is not smoking. He is in a miserable state that you no longer go through now. Also you will never have to experience this kind of chronic withdrawal again as long as you continue to learn lessons from him and all of the other smokers you know and also from all of the long-term ex-smokers you know too. The more people you observe in your real world the more obvious it will become that the only way to stay smoke free is simply just knowing to never take another puff! Joel |
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IrishLotus GOLD |
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Thank you all for coming out with your support and advice on the topic of "social smoking". I know it is a common theme for a lot of us (either
with our own quits or those of our loved ones) and I thought it would be useful (especially for me) to share my recent revelation.
Valerie- How very wise of you to acknowledge that one of the keys to maintaining our FREEDOM is to ALWAYS remember The Law of Addiction. Afterall, the truth shall set us FREE!
Rick- As I remind you how important it is to Never Take Another Puff I remind myself as well. Watching the constant withdrawal of a "social smoker" is always a good painful
reminder of why we should treasure our FREEDOM (even after nearly TEN months...way to go!)
Gena- Thanks, my lovely BRONZE quit sister, for comiserated regarding men who "won't listen the first time". I suppose some lessons can
only be learned first hand.
OBob- You always seem to know how to put what I am trying to say in a much clearer, more concise way...thanks for helping to make this thread a very useful
tool for anyone struggling with the trigger/issue of "social smoking".
Sal- I was certainly smiling, Sal, when I watched my boyfriend succumb to his addiction (as I had suspected he eventually would). Not, of course because
I want him to fail, mind you, merely because it feels good to be proven right every once in a while. As I said, "sweet & sour
validation".
BillW- Thank you for your covert communication (and of course the laugh out loud response full of winks and nods
Ken- Look at you go! At 5 weeks you have already mastered many of the concepts of FREEDOM! Congratulations, I bow to your buddha nature! Loved the line:
It takes the education that we get here at Freeom to realize that believing we can be social smokers is tantamount to
believeing that we can be social breathers or sleepers or drinkers of water. Amen to that! Oh, and a belated
congratulations on GREEN...you are doing fabulously!
Richard- The "list", eh? What greater honor could you bestow?
Lilycat- Thanks for chiming in. I sincerely hope that he will someday (soon) see the "light" of his addiction to nicotine. For now, I will
continue to prove that this is indeed "doable" and that the only way to truly take control of nicotine is to cut it out completely.
Joel- What can I say? It is amazing to me that a "never-smoker" such as yourself can get into our heads that way that you always seem to do.
Constanly amazed at the amount of "A-Ha" moments you can fit into 4 Months 3 Weeks 5 Days 8 Hours 12 Minutes 19 Seconds.
Cigarettes not smoked: 4450. Money saved: $1,112.56.
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MareBear GOLD |
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This is definitely one of those threads that will come up again and again. Thanks Lotus! I used to be so
envious of my friends who called themselves "social smokers." I can think of three of them off the top of my head. Considering the statistics, that
can't be possible! One friend has kept her smoking "habit" from her parents and co-workers because she knows they will strongly disapprove.
What's so social about that? Another friend says she only "has to smoke" when she's travelling long distances by herself in her
car (is anyone surprised that her job entails travelling long distances every day?), and when she drinks, which is every weekend. So basically, she smokes
every day. I recently had a party and both of these friends were there. I was amazed at the amount of cigarettes that these two self-proclaimed
"social smokers" put away in a matter of hours! At least a pack each, and by the end of the evening they were bumming cigs from everyone around
them. They aren't kidding anyone except themselves and that's sad.
As for my husband, I won't give up on him, but he says he isn't ready and I can't push him. To his
credit, he says he is heartened by my ability to stay away from even taking one puff for almost nine months now. It's simple, but only if you wrap your
brain around it. Till then, it will be as difficult as you think it will be.
Thanks again Lotus!
YQS
MareBear
8 months, 3 weeks, 1 day
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OBob Gold |
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Joel's reply here deserves to be added to his library. Awesome post...
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richard This is It GOLD |
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I'm with OBob on that one also....
"He is either smoking or edgy because he is not smoking."
Been there, done that, ain't going back again.....
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Angelina Gold |
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Hi Irish - sorry to hear your other half is an eedjit! (lol.....)
You know I reckon there should be a thread called BUGGER OFF SECOND HAND FREEDOM USERS. My partner quit three months ago after my incessant nagging and
printing off HUGE reams of information from Joel's library and Freedom and you know what? Yes, it has been great - he even uses the term NTAP and is
able to clearly articulate his knowledge that there is no such thing as ONE.
What really DRIVES ME though is his complete refusal to be a member here at Freedom or read any more of Joel's library etc. Instead I have to listed to
him whine and complain nad get all grumpy every now and then because he WANTS a smoke. I am (yes, probably quite selfishly) really sick of being the
'expert' and explaining the terrible threes, the seasonal triggers, the emotional loss etc etc etc. I feel like saying YOU KNOW WHAT???? I AM
FIGHTING MY OWN QUIT here! - yes it is a LOT easier this far down the track but it is still a challenge and I just wish he would take the time needed ot gain
the absolutely CRITICAL key to remaining quit - FIRST HAND EDUCATION.
Perhaps we should get together, nail our boys butts to a picnic bench, plant a laptop between them and FORCE them to read...............sigh
Sorry - feel like I have taken over your issue with my need to vent there hon - but thanks - I feel better now.
Angelina
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Rachel goodasGOLD |
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Lotus,
I just want to say "you rock!"
-YQS Rachel
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IrishLotus GOLD |
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Not a problem Angelina...Those eedjits do require us to vent on occasion.
YQS-
148 Glorious Days of FREEDOM!
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