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CMondragon21170 |
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Sunday night (day 10) was the first night I slept through the night w/out getting up every
hour. Even falling asleep was crazy-I would twitch right at that moment that I was drifting off. It was disturbing at first, but I realized that my body
was going to probably do tricks for awhile until my state of normal returned.
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sharpsper1 |
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I found this quite interesting, in the week leading up to my quit date, I was worried about sleep issues. From day one I have s;ept better, been able to wake
earlier and enjoyed much more energy from the onset. I'll admit this strengthens me, I feel great about not having to drag myself out of bed. I used to
wake around 7:30 to get the kids ready for school, and spend the morning rushing adn being grumpy at everyone. I now wake before the alarm at 6:00 a.m and
spend time quitely with the kids before we start our mad rush. It's great.
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lizzy19595 |
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Hello all
Sad to say that when I smoked I slept like a log. Since I quit 54 days ago there has not been one full night of sleep. I'm waking up ++ and basically
dozing most of the night. I did go to my doc to get something and even that really doesn't help much. My quit remains secure despite this but I have a
few questions and wondered if any one had some information.
1] what is the longest anyone has experienced sleep problems?
2] can nicotine use mask a sleep disorder?
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kattatonic1 gold4 |
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It took me a little while to adjust. Sleep has been much better for a very, very long time now!
Kay (Gold x 2)
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Kristie |
Sleep Adjustments | #25 | ||
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Thanks, Kristie
Kristie - Free and Healing for Thirteen Days, 11 Hours and 3 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 22 Hours, by avoiding the use of 269 nicotine
delivery devices that would have cost me $43.64.
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Gold Massabe2006 |
Sleep Adjustments | #26 | ||
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It is nice to read about the things I am experiencing as I progress through this journey. I have been waking up atleast 2 times a night wide awake and at
the same time waking up in the morning feeling more rested and alert than I have in years. Incredible.
Dave - Free and Healing for Four Days, 12 Hours and 26 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 7 Hours, by avoiding the use of 90 nicotine delivery
devices that would have cost me $15.82.
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Kara anne |
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Good to know :) NTAP!
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Joel |
Sleep Adjustments | #28 | ||
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I saw where a newer member off for almost two weeks now found herself waking up before her alarm and feeling more alert and refreshed than ever, basically on
less sleep than when she was smoking. This string addresses this reaction.
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Sal GOLD |
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From above:
Sleep can get pretty disruptive the first few days. Some people will get very little sleep, waking up every hour or not sleeping at all yet not feel tired. Others can sleep 20 hours a day and be exhausted during their waking hours. Whichever way it goes, sleep will adjust itself when you quit and eventually go back to normal. But there is a catch. You don't know what normal is. Normal is what it was prior to being a smoker with aging thrown in. Some people have not been normal for decades. |
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Photo Larry |
Unique quitter circumstance for sleeping | #30 | ||
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I am one of those odd ball people who smoked only before I went to bed! Yes like an idiot I would puff two or three, have my heart racing, unable to breathe
normally, and thought somehow this was aiding in getting me to sleep! Stupid fool! I would have to get up after about 4 hours after going to bed because
naturally my body wanted yet more nicotine, I smoked 3 more, went back to sleep for 4 more hours. And I complained over and over about how I had sleeping
difficulties which could not be overcome without cigarettes! Yes addiction is powerful, and illogical. I have a scientific college degree. One would think I
would be smart enough to know better. Well luckily I figured out my error before I killed myself. I learned that nothing is worth sacrificing my health for.
Not one puff, or one thousand. Thanks for adding me to the group. I look forward to participating. I was referred by friends. They highly recommended I use
these boards in helping me stay quit. Thanks again.
Larry
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Photo Larry |
An Odd Sleep For this Odd Ex-Smoker | #31 | ||
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Here is my very odd story. I am fairly sure that I smoked for a very very unique reason. I was under the delusion that it actually was HELPING me get sleep.
Well this nicotine addict is finished. I no longer am allowing it to ruin my sleeping patterns. I would smoke a few RIGHT at bed time. Well guess what
happens? My heart rate increases, my blood pressure drops, and of course, the nicotine stimulates my brain, thus, I am not falling asleep normally. About an
hour later, after heavy breathing caused by the smoking, I would eventually fall asleep. But this was poor sleep as I woke up 3 hours(max) later, since my
body told my brain, ok nicotine has dropped, wake up, smoke more, now go back to bed. I then would sleep 2 hours, and repeat the same pattern. So in effect,
I would get about 7 hours total at most, with worst episodes of waking up 3 times during the night to smoke again. I was such an addict, so pathetic, that I
went ALL day long, from the time I awoke, say about 9am, all day, until midnight. Not one cigarette. Then because there was a trigger(mental) in my brain
telling me, hey this is what you do before bed time, I went outside, and smoked 2-4 cigarettes, depending on my mood level. How and why would I do such a
thing? No benefits at all. In fact quite the opposite. I would wake up multiple times, and feel guilty the next day for doing such an ignorant thing. Hence
the only thing I can call this: "Severe Nicotine Addiction"
I do hope that I am able to get a full nights sleep at some point (so far I still awake once or twice to use the bathroom) but I guess I will not know what real sleep is like until I have been quit for a few months and my lungs begin to recover from 20 years of damage. Thanks for listening. Larry
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Joe J free |
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Why do I smoke?
Classic question. Only only one real answer. You smoke because you're a smoke-a-holic Withdrawal symptoms, when do they end? Will this get better? Life goes on without smoking Junkie thinking..... Who's to blame? Welcome! Are you ready to take back your life? The closet smoker Isolation of a widowed smoker The teaching of conventional wisdom at Freedom |
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Joel Spitzer |
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Actually, needing to smoke in order to sleep is not that unusual of an occurrence. In clinics I had plenty of people report that they often woke up in the
middle of the night because they needed a cigarette and were only able to fall back to sleep by smoking one or two. I always pointed out to them how clearly
this showed them the nature of their addiction, having to wake up to take a stimulant drug (nicotine) in order to be able to fall back to sleep. There were
also people who smoked heavily in the evening in order to get their nicotine levels high enough as to be able to sleep longer before going into withdrawal.
Again, they were people who were overdosing on nicotine which was likely disrupting the overall quality of their sleep but it was the only way they could seem
to manage to sleep at all when quitting. They needed to titrate their nicotine levels to minimize withdrawal symptoms long enough to allow them to sleep for
any extended time period.
I need to point out that these are different people than those who smoked more at the end of the day purposely in order to stay awake longer so as to watch late night television or do late night projects. These people, who are probably more common are smoking more at the tail end of the day precisely to stay awake longer using nicotine's quality as a stimulant drug. This article addresses these people: How Would You Deal With the Following Situations? How would you deal with the following situations?
Read the links JoeJ put up for you. They really help to clarify the reasons you smoke. |
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Another related article:
Using cigarettes to self medicate certain medical conditions There are likely some people who smoke in order to self-medicate themselves for certain conditions that they have. What these people need to understand though is the problem with the "medication" (their cigarettes) that they have chosen to use to treat a condition. The medication (cigarettes) they are using has certain undesirable side effects. Think of it this way. Lets say that you have a medical or emotional condition that causes you some level of discomfort. Nothing life threatening, just a problem that is causing some minor disruption in your day to day function. You go to your pharmacy and look through the over the counter remedies and find one that says it "may" be able to treat your exact condition. You buy it. When you get home you start to read the dosing instructions and contraindications of usage. The medication has the following standard warning: Medication is habit forming. Medication leads to addiction to most people who use it. Medication known to be one of the most addictive drugs known to man. Medication contains the following ingredients, followed by a list of four thousand chemicals, some with familiar names like arsenic, hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide and many many others. Medication known to cause cancer in rodents. Medication known to cause cancer in humans. Medication known to cause heart disease, strokes, peripheral vascular diseases. Medication known to destroy lung tissue. Medication known to cause chronic obstructive pulmonary diseases like emphysema and chronic bronchitis. Medication is known to be the most recognized cause of premature death in the United States. Medication known to cripple millions of people worldwide every year. Medication known to kill over 4.9 million people worldwide every year. Medication known to kill one out of every two people who use it. On top of this you calculate the cost of using this medication over your lifetime, which is how it is going to be used if you start it now, and you realize it is going to cost you tens of thousands of dollars over your lifetime. No insurance company will ever cover its costs and in fact, most likely all of your insurance companies are going to charge you higher premiums for your lifetime because you use the medication. Considering all of the above consequences--do you take the medication? One more thing--there are other medications on the market that actually can treat your condition, that have no known life threatening health effects. I think any rational person would try to get a refund for the purchased medication. There is probably only one group of people who would take the medication considering the above implications. It is the ones who had been taking it for years already, who may have started before they knew or fully understood all of the problems the drug would cause. Now they may believe the warnings but they like most others who used it are caught in the active grip of the addiction of the drug. They believe that they have lost choice in the matter. They are users and they believe they are stuck that way for the rest of their life. Hopefully, somewhere in fine print on the box will be an instruction that says, medication is addictive and deadly, but can be stopped if a person simply makes and sticks to a personal commitment to never take another dose. Joel |
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As far as for thinking that maybe you are somehow different than others:
"Everyone is Different?" Joel's Reinforcement Library
"Everyone is Different?"
A common belief in many circles is that everyone is different. While this concept holds true in most walks of life, in many ways it does not hold true when examining drug addiction. Most addicts are the same in more ways than they are different. Their behaviors, beliefs, attitudes are all being controlled by a substance. The more established and ingrained the addiction becomes the more the person becomes a stereotype of an addict. In the case of a cigarette smoker, once the person quits and gets nicotine out of his or her body then true individual variations will become apparent. But there still are similarities that are shared with other ex-smokers that still need to be understood. Once a person becomes an ex-smoker he or she is in control of his or her addiction, but he or she still has the addiction. The ex-smoker is no longer an active smoker but the person is not a "never smoker" either. The ex-smoker is still a recovering addict and must keep that knowledge alive. In one important way ex-smokers are all the same though. They will all be able to stay smoke free for the rest of their lives if they NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!
Joel
© Joel Spitzer 2002
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My first week of quitting I sleep like a log, but go into this second week, I keep waking up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep. This
is very unpleasant. Couldn't wait for it to improve.
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